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Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.10 03:38:00 - [1] Originally by: DHB WildCat Edited by: DHB WildCat on 09/02/2007 23:51:31 This is for all the alliances that are so called "Pets" living under BoB's shadow (of which you no longer need to be). This is an open invite to join the cause against the BoB entity. Some corps / Alliances that come to mind are MC FIX RISE Xelas I can understand your loyalty to BoB but it does not look good for them now, and you do not need to go down with them. In the end if your stances remain the same, Feyth, Querious, Delve, Fountain, will no longer be your to harbor in. This is a friendly invite to our cause, hope to hear from you soon. WildCat -[23] Member- EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame)
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:06:00 - [2] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 10/02/2007 04:06:07 Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Originally by: Chirinako In a nutshell - Don't think you'll get Fix support. Quite the opposite. I'm no commander of FIX, I just hope we'll stick to our morals. Bob help us when we ask for it. We'll return the favour, I'm sure of that. So your morals tells you to support an alliance that just got caught cheating? Are you kidding me? One member of BoB cheated. He was caught, and hopefully CCP will fire t20 for his actions. I sure hope so; what he did was despicable. On the other hand, all of Goonfleet has in the past used software that blatantly violates the EULA. In fact, since it was required, every member of Goonfleet who was playing at that time is indeed a cheater. I would rather support an alliance where one, single person cheated than one where every single member of the alliance was required to cheat as a policy. Your alliance are proven cheaters. You cannot spin this, it is a fact. As long as you are in EVE you cannot honestly insult anyone else as cheaters because of your own stupid decisions. Its as if Band of Brothers was flaming someone for use of propaganda; its outright, hilarious hypocrisy. -[23] Member- EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame)
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:11:00 - [3] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 10/02/2007 04:08:15 Originally by: manimani Yeah, you're right. Maybe we should all get banned Or maybe the reason why your local window has the little cube on the right is because of this little hack that goonswarm produced So cheating is only justified when you do it? You cannot honestly insult anyone for cheating when cheating was one of your own alliance policies. Period. -[23] Member- EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame)
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:13:00 - [4] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 10/02/2007 04:11:45 Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate One person? how about the people in BOB that not only knew about this, but let it happen? We don't know this. It might be, but there is no evidence. Its quite possible t20 simply told them that he won the BPOs in the lottery. Of course its also quite possible he, stupidly, told them he was a dev and that he could spawn winbuttons for them. Hopefully CCP will continue the investigation until we know exactly what happened. Better yet, BoB could admit fully the extent of their role in this, if any. I'm personally waiting for an official BoB post on the topic; it'll be interesting to see whether they spill it or spin it. I don't personally care much what the outcome is as long as we learn the full truth and people stop fearmongering. Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Also, could you please direct me to where a Goonswarm member was caught using a third party software? There was a long thread in General Discussion a while back about the hack Goonfleet members used to show standings in local before the feature was implemented in Revelations. It was revealed that it was an alliance-wide feature required as policy. -[23] Member- EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame)
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:17:00 - [5] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 10/02/2007 04:14:07 Originally by: Virtuality I'm a cheater, and I hope that nobody cares that I cheated when I insult other people for cheating. Fixed. -[23] Member- EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame)
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.12 11:36:00 - [6] Originally by: Kaeten Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 10/02/2007 04:08:15 Originally by: manimani Yeah, you're right. Maybe we should all get banned Or maybe the reason why your local window has the little cube on the right is because of this little hack that goonswarm produced So cheating is only justified when you do it? You cannot honestly insult anyone for cheating when cheating was one of your own alliance policies. Period. How did goons cheat? You mean by hacking forums etc.? That was also one member afiak. No, by their alliance-wide portrait hack system to introduce standings in local before everyone else had them, i.e. before revelations. It was declared an exploit and CCP were forced to add standings in local because they couldn't detect which goons were using the hack. -[23] Member- EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame)
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.12 11:48:00 - [7] Originally by: patteSatan Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Kaeten Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 10/02/2007 04:08:15 Originally by: manimani Yeah, you're right. Maybe we should all get banned Or maybe the reason why your local window has the little cube on the right is because of this little hack that goonswarm produced So cheating is only justified when you do it? You cannot honestly insult anyone for cheating when cheating was one of your own alliance policies. Period. How did goons cheat? You mean by hacking forums etc.? That was also one member afiak. No, by their alliance-wide portrait hack system to introduce standings in local before everyone else had them, i.e. before revelations. It was declared an exploit and CCP were forced to add standings in local because they couldn't detect which goons were using the hack. Oh, and your bed-buddies ISS was ENCOURAGED IN ISS-FORUMS TO USE THE SAME HACK!! So, dont throw stones while sitting in a glass-house, little FIXian. "Bed buddies"? At the time the portrait hack was used, ISS were our enemies. Not as if it makes a difference; we can't tell them what to do, so you can't blame their conduct on us. It would be really nice if we could tell RA, for example, to not use login traps, but I doubt they would listen. Same with ISS and the portrait hack. -[23] Member- EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame)

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